I don’t know why anyone should be too surprised. When push comes to shove, you can almost always depend on BYU to do the dishonorable thing. Indirectly, perhaps, they have been instrumental in helping to dissolve the WAC. Although I know many fans will want us to make a long-term agreement to schedule their football team (inasmuch as we may need to if WE go independent too), I wish we were in a position to tell them to take a flying leap. I’d like to schedule them once every 3 years so they can’t use that as a recruiting tool to get local prospects. I’d also like us to “smoke” the opposition for the next year or so and leapfrog into the MWC ourselves and get back to playing against UNLV, San Diego State, Boise, Fresno, etc.
In a roundabout way, this could be good for UH … rebuilding the “hate” for BYU. And if both are independent in football, they will in a sense be in the same “conference,” perhaps competing for the same BCS bid … I think BYU may be starting a trend of plenty of independent teams, and it may cause revision of the BCS rules to provide for access to independents besides Notre Dame.
Protector: I don’t see this as BYU being dishonorable, it’s just them doing what makes the most sense for them. I mean when you look at the WAC post Boise, Fresno, and Nevada, there’s not that much left with what’s leftover sad to say. And as far as local prospects to BYU or mainland schools go, there’s no way we can keep all of them here. If a kid wants to go away for college and wants to have that experience, he/she is going to go away, whether they get a comparable package from UH or not. Playing in front of the hometown crowd is simply not enough if someone wants to experience college away from home.
Not trying to argue with you, but just wanted to present a different perspective.
Dave: Maybe you can enlighten me but as far as football goes, what (if any) benefits are there to staying in the WAC as opposed to being an independent? Are the only benefits the safety of knowing that you’ll play “X” amount of conference opponents every season with the addition of “possibly” being invited for a BCS birth?
Sad to say as this thing goes on longer the more I agree with you that we should go independent in football and to the Big West for everything else–I think that’ll definitely be better for our other sports.
And as for scheduling BYU for football and rebuilding that “hate,” sadly I think those days are long gone. I know older fans would like that, but that rivalry is long gone. Believe me, this coming from someone who grew up watching UH football in the 80s and seeing us fall short so many times until miraculously we “rocked” BYU 54-14. As much fun and exciting that was, I don’t think there’s any way we can recapture that type of nostalgia. That left when those 8 schools broke away to form the Mountain West.
Actually, I’m hoping we (and the rest of the conference) really stick it to Fresno St and Nevada this season (and next season if they stay) and beat them in as many sports as we can. That’s the best motivator for a rivalry right there. Boise St, they can win us BCS bid and then the conference will keep that money.
No matter what happens though, there are still two things that I think we still need to achieve:
1) We still need to get better and more competitive in football–and be consistent about it.
I think this is the biggest thing we can do to help our situation in the years to come. It’s not going to happen overnight, but I do hope it starts this season. <—-(me being really optimistic)
2) We need to fix our budgetary woes.
Sounds like UH subsidizing travel for other teams seems more and more inevitable. This is something that is going to add more stress to an already tight budget.
8. Yes, Kev, I think an annual series with BYU is still possible, actually likely. Jim Donovan had already scheduled BYU for some games even before this. BYU seems to like to come here (they stopped for a while because they got trounced in 2001 on the hard Astro turf). Also, some of the Mountain West schools are so mad at BYU they’re making noise that they won’t play the Cougars again.
9. Yoda, I see no benefit to UH staying in the WAC now. If I thought the landscape of college football were to remain stable in the coming years in the coming years then, yes, scheduling security is a plus. But I don’t know if the WAC will survive, even if Hawaii remains in the conference.
Wasn’t Boise, Fresno, and Nevada dumb!??! BYU planned to leave the MWC, they all knew because of the lack of TV exposure for the MWC (no ESPN deal)… and the WAC and ESPN were in talks about adding more money on the table. Stupid. Stupid! Stupid!
Karl Benson teleconference announcing BYU football games with WAC teams. He also said “resolution is enforceable” in regards to $5 million fee for Fresno State and Nevada leaving WAC, despite BYU not joining WAC. Benson also repeated that Freno and Nevada won’t be released from the WAC until after spring 2012.
Dave, you stated before that confernece realignment could lead to the formation of four 16 team mega conferences. If that happens do you think it’ll lead to some sort four team playoff for the National Championship. They’ll have a built in final four with the conference champions. Something along those lines would mean big bucks for the conference championship games, even bigger bucks for the two final four games and mega bucks for the national championship game.
16. Yes, cocobean. You would hope this would facilitate a playoff. If they’re in a generous mood — or forced to do so — maybe it would be 8 teams and include one or two of the best from 65 to 120. But who really knows? All I know is things will be very different two years from now.