More Hawaii Bowl Postmortem

December 25th, 2010
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The following contribution and starting point for discussion is from reader Gary Beck:

Your article today had some truth that I think should be expanded.  Specifically, the quote, “They jumped all our routes” clearly shows a huge gap in preparation between the two teams, as does the obvious similarity between the first two picks.  In other words, the Bows were clearly out-coached because game plans are based on research done by the coaching staff, as are the preparatory practices.  Very little can usually be blamed on the players except things like fumbles and wounded duck passes.

The coach at my school has famously said, “Take care of the little things and the big things will take care of themselves” and therein lies the main problem with UH football.

34 Responses to “More Hawaii Bowl Postmortem”

  1. Justin:

    Could someone please call out Mack on the lack of practice time the warriors had in preparation for Tulsa? This clearly led to the lack of rhythm, precision, execution by the offense.

    To my understanding, the NCAA allots 15 practice days to bowl-bound before the match-up, yet apparently the warriors only practiced about 6-7 times. Is this true? If so, this represents total ignorance and mismanagement on behalf of Mack and his assistants.

    Did Mack honestly think the warriors could just show up and defeat a very talented, disciplined, and motivated Tulsa football team?

    The accumulated rust as a result of the lack of prep time was just too great to shake, and it showed on the field.

    This is the fourth year in a row that UH has suffered an embarrasing loss on national tv to cap the season.I just hope the players and coaches can respond and work harder than ever to ensure the streak does not continue to a fifth.


  2. oldtimer808:

    I understand the frustrations of losing this game, however, even if the team was allowed 15 practices our student athletes also were responsible for their final exams. If you ever have gone to college preparing for your finals especially for a student athlete is very demanding. What are the coaches to do? If you preach school first than that is the commitment to your student athlete. It is easy to talk of the negatives but I would prefer to look at all the success this team had this year. If your program is to continue to move forward than your word of school first should always be honored to your student athletes. The student athletes who take this responsibility to heart are the true winners and the coaches who understand this should be commended. Go Warriors!!


  3. Rainbow Fan:

    I agree that the Warriors were outcoached (same as in the Boise and Notre Dame games ) as the offense had no answer to the Tulsa defense in the first half, but did a little better in the second. The UH game plans seem to be to stick to the same old plays on offense and hope they turn out okay while the smarter opponents such as Boise and Tulsa develop good schemes to foil the UH offense.

    Then in the second half the UH defense fell apart. Also they should have stuck with Salas as a punt return fair catch person instead of risking Pilares as a punt returner.

    As for number of practices, due to the finals they couldn’t practice that much. Maybe the game should be played later on in December ? But what happened to the academic advisors ? 3 starting players didn’t meet the grade requirements. It is tough though to play football and also have enough time for academics.


  4. Rainbow Fan:

    Also, the Tulsa pass defense was supposed to be rated 119 out of 120 while Hawaii was 53. The number of long passes given up by Hawaii in the second half brought memories of the same old porous pass defense that has plagued Hawaii for many years.


  5. aaron:

    the JJ teams won bowl games more than they lost… and grad rates weren’t great. mack’s teams haven’t done well in bowl games but have fared better in the classroom.


  6. Justin:

    Anyone think the coaches made a mistake by not letting Shane Austin stay in the game? Granted, he threw that untimely pick 6, but that was a result of inexperience and panick on his part rather than reading the incorrectly reading the defensive coverage.

    Moniz, on the other hand, threw those interceptions directly at the Tulsa defenders all while having a decent amount of protection from his o-line. He was confused and inaccurate all game.

    The game’s over, nothing we can do about it. But man, I just wish we could have sent our seniors out on a higher note. This loss stings.


  7. empty:

    Throughout the game, does the defensive coach talk to the offensive coach to tell him what he sees the other defense doing? Alternatively, does the offensive coach tell the defensive coach what he sees while our defense is on the field? With the coaches as with the players, it should be a team effort. We might be able to react quicker if everyone is talking to each other so we can recognize schemes that the other teams are using against us. Such as dropping the linegbackers into coverage after the ball is snapped. It’s just a question since I have no college football experience and am just a spectator.


  8. kk:

    mcmackin sucks as a head coach, good assistant though and a nice guy but thats not what he’s paid for. as usual, hawaii’s D sucks. defense hasn’t been able to stop good offenses in ages. when we play good, well-balanced teams we get our butts kicked. thing that gets me is that when uh beats crappy teams they all talk like they can play with anybody. yeah right! be humble and get back to reality. booing the tulsa high-light film at the banquet?!? WTF is that all about? show some class! did stupid stuff like that against notre dame and same thing happened; got their butts kicked! love uh but shame when they show no class!


  9. raiders4ever:

    bottom line losing sucks!!!!


  10. harry:

    McMackin will probably get a raise.


  11. masteruke:

    For all the JJ lovers and the run and shoot this is the reality when you play the better teams
    Your defense gets to play all game long because its three and out. It would surprise me if
    Rolo changes because like JJ he is in love with the high passing numbers and scores. Mana
    Silva showed me the real mentality of the team when he was dancing around pounding his chest after a hit and UH was losing the game. You don’t talk shit during the game, after the game and before the game unless you can back it up. So far every big game coaches and players alike tapped out


  12. kk:

    sad, but the mentality of most kids nowadays is to showboat, trash-talk, and ridicule their opponents. that stems from watching how the pro players behave, these kids idolize them and imitate their favorite athletes. the coaches also set the tone on how their athletes conduct themselves on and off the field by instructing them on how to show class and be model citizens. of course, the kids that you recruit and their attitudes play a big part on how your team conducts itself. duke is a prime example of how to do things the right way and still be great. rarely,if ever, do you hear of a duke basketball player’s transgressions. the reason; coach k only recruits players that he feels are of good moral character and that can also play great b-ball. kids that have questionable character issues don’t even get a second look. like i tell my son; when you make a good play, be it in basketball,baseball or football or any other sport…ACT LIKE YOU BEEN THERE BEFORE! it’s great to be pumped up and amped but always remember that YOU BE HUMBLE WHEN YOU WIN, HUMILITY WHEN YOU LOSE. other teams,players and fans recognize this and respect you way more. uh offense makes it exciting because of the points it can score but other good offensive teams run right over our defense. uh needs to start recruiting better defensive players. no pass rush and small db’s that can’t cover good receivers. go uh!!!


  13. Mr. B:

    @masteruke Yes, it always makes me laugh when a guy makes a good hit, and he jumps up, and starts pounding his chest – ESPECIALLY when his team is LOSING! Ha! ha!

    I remember, in one game, when Deion Sanders was playing for the 49ers, he played receiver on a couple of plays. The 49ers had a big lead when Deion made a catch, and the defensive back nailed him good. The DB gets up and starts taunting Deion. Deion calmly stood up, got the attention of the DB who hit him, pointed to the scoreboard, and walked away. Made the DB look like a total ass.


  14. Rainbow Fan:

    Shane Austin was doing a good job, maybe he should have been kept in the game.


  15. sports for fun:

    I too thought Shane Austin was doing a great job when he was in there. I thought he should have been allowed to stay in since Moniz was hurt. On the drive where Austin lead the Warriors on their score, he wasn’t holding the ball long. He was making quick decisions and spreading the ball around. Whereas, as I watched Moniz, he held the ball too long thereby the d-line of Tulsa was able to get to him. Maybe it was because Moniz didn’t come to practice at times? I don’t know, but I believe I read that Austin took most of the snaps during practices leading up to the Hawai’i Bowl.

    I hope the QB position will be open during Spring Ball. Shane Austin showed me that he can run this offense, despite his pick-6. :)


  16. kev-1:

    look at those interceptions again. how many were jumped routes, and how many were thrown directly to the defender . . . come on!!


  17. popoman - aka Rick:

    kev-1 hit it right on the nose. When your QB throws directly to the defenders, or 25 yards away and 15 feet high you can’t blame the coaches. Moniz played like a rookie and “helped” in their loss. The UH defense picked up on his lack of effort and played defeated.

    Again, I hoped the “incentives” were worth it!


  18. Rainbow Fan:

    This was coaching on the part of Tulsa, looks like the linebacker dropped back into the passing lane on at least two of the picks and Moniz didn’t expect him to be there. Also lack of anticipation by the UH offensive coaches that Tulsa might do that again after the first pick and there was no safety valve for when Tulsa blitzed.


  19. kev-1:

    What I want to know is why hasn’t the coach addressed the loss in the media? All he basically said was give credit to tulsa and merry christmas. WTF? Shouldn’t there be some accountability? Shouldn’t he have to justify why they were so unprepared? Shouldn’t he have to justify the lack of practice? People keep saying that academics and finals were more important, and I agree. But no way should it have taken the place of practice. Finals are not all day long, and neither is studying for them. SCHOLARSHIP players especially, who get a free education for playing sports in return, should be able to balance the two. Am I the only one who wants Coach Mac to try and explain himself? Because they sure as well werent prepared for tulsa like he continually guaranteed.


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