Lawyering Up

September 20th, 2012
By dreardon

The arrogance of the University of Hawaii seems to have no end. UH is hiring lawyers for the state senate hearings starting Monday.

This is outrageous. Why do the university officials including system president M.R.C. Greenwood, Board of Regents chairman Eric Martinson, Manoa chancellor Tom Apple, former Manoa chancellor Virginia Hinshaw and former Manoa athletic director Jim Donovan need lawyers when all they have to do — and should do — is answer the senators’ questions truthfully and completely?

And who is paying for these attorneys?

My guess is we are. The taxpayers.

19 Responses to “Lawyering Up”

  1. Stu:

    University Gone Wild. Tuition increases far outpace inflation. Top heavy administrators with attitude and hefty salaries to match. No accountability to students and tax payers. Mismanagement and arrogance in the ivory tower. Just the tip of the iceberg.


  2. da beastman:

    tuition increases pay for their lawyers. If they answer the questions truthfully, they will incriminate themselves and that my friends, would cost them all their jobs. They have no idea how to take responsibility for their own actions. Just keep passing the buck.


  3. yojimbo:

    the sad outcome of this circus act will be nothing. no one will be held accountable, no punishment, and if anything, more big buyouts for the failed leaders.

    only the lawyers come out smelling like roses.


  4. cranston:

    Waste of money…if no one did anything wrong, what do they have to be afraid of? Why do they need lawyers to assist them in facing the Senate’s questions? Hiding something?


  5. Imua7:

    And the fiasco continues…even in congress hearings shown on CSPN, you don’t see public officials “lawyering up”, only in Hawaii! Let me understand this, UH Officials who are appointed by Public Office Officials, who are “hired” by the public people, are spending taxpayers monies to pay for lawyers because they lost 200K of public funds? plus a whole lot more of other issues going on at UH? Auwe! No wonder our UH Students can’t get classes they need to graduate on time and our State economy is “rocky”!


  6. chawan_cut:

    the lawyer fees should come from the president and chancellor’s pockets. they make more than enough to pay for these ridiculous acts. why rob the poor students when they’re trying to get an education to become hopefully a little more “professional” than their leaders that run their school.


  7. Chicken Grease:

    Yet they call your house — heard they call during dinner time and/or late in the evening. Hey! what ever happened to that national “do not call” list? And I don’t make a distinction, UH Foundation, UH Clown College, UH Fund to Pay Another Six Figures to Former Athletic Directors to Provide For Their New Job on Campus (yeah, U.H.F.T.P.A.6.F.T.F.A.D.T.P.F.T.N.J.O.C., you’ve heard of it before, yes?) — for donation. How come they no call a Grease? Would LOVE to talk to these yoyos on the phone, give them an education.

    This unoversity, too, has the budget to bring in subversives like that f@(!in’ Ward Churchill. That takes money to do.

    This University apparently got plenny money to burn. So, folks, no give. They get plenny money to screw around with.

    Right on, Reardon!!!! Keep on All the President’s Men on this one!!!!


  8. Black Bean Chow Fun:

    Amen Dave!

    As a UH alum I also find this unacceptable on all counts for UH, a public university, to answer to the public. If our Gov. had any balls he would clean house at Manoa. Or maybe Greenwood is a close friend to he and his wife. I think that might be worth investigating.


  9. Chicken Grease:

    No be shame if you no more one Ph.D. Look at THESE Ph.Ds . . . You darn right, Dave. These Ph.Ds (read, also: Piled High and D cannot even be honest enough (and looks like don’t have the smarts enough) to answer questions to, basically, those who deserve answers — the public, the alumni, etc.

    Mercado-Kim and company shoud “times 10″ the reprimands and punishments they have in store for this UH-M elite.

    Answer the questions, smartypantses and UH-M privileged; don’t nancy out.


  10. cocobean:

    From a Few Good Men……

    M.R.C. “You want answers?”

    Donna Kim “I think I’m entitled to them.”

    M.R.C. “You want answers?”

    Donna Kim ” I want the truth.”

    M.R.C. ” You can’t handle the truth, girl..”

    This hearing is a waste of time and student money. What kind of answers is the committee looking for? Basically, Sheriff was approached by a local promoter with the deal. He bounced the idea off of Donovan who got the process of making it happen started.

    The problem is no one involved suspected anything was amiss. Sheriff relied on the local promoter, Donovan relied on Sheriff and everyone else involved in the process relied on Donovan or the person he delegated to get certain things done. This failure was truly a team effort.

    The Admin is compounding the negativity by it’s conduct in trying to explain what happened. M.R.C., we can handle the truth. Just say you guys went into crisis management mode and came out with solutions that were not well thought out.


  11. Chicken Grease:

    cocobean:
    September 21st, 2012 at 11:19 am

    This hearing is a waste of time and student money. What kind of answers is the committee looking for?

    Uh. The point is that these individ’als are being asked to give answers that they apparently don’t think they owe to the public. OK?

    The public can handle the truth. And we wanna hear it already. We wanna hear how this accredited, known university MANAGED TO GET SWINDLED OUT OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS like how a tourist would get his/her pocket picked having lost their way in a major city. Got it?


  12. cocobean:

    CG. My point is what’s going to come out of this? Recovered money? Firings? Reprimands?

    The first two are unlikely. Only law enforcement can recover the money at this point. I posted on Tsai’s blog earlier, which I know you’re a regular reader, the firings would be too costly, re: Dobelle and Frazier.

    Is reprimanding the UH Admin worth the time of the askers and the answerers? Is it worth the money the answers will spend fr legal advice on this imeeting and the followup on 10/2/12.

    To me there is an element of grandstanding by the askers. It’s free face and print time. No doubt they’ll put on their best Nancy Grace face when it’s their to tend the grill.

    Answers? Exactly what does the committee want to know. An in person rehash of UH’s investigative findings? Bottom line is the UH got suckered and UH is bungling in explaining how and why.


  13. cocobean:

    should read – when it’s their time to tend the grill.


  14. hon2255:

    Enough already MRC, your arrogance is stifling, If you can’t answer simple questions upfront and honestly, you must then submit your resignation and give up your 400k plus salary and expense accts, and condo,for you and your honey girl. Resignations inorder for Greenwood, Apple and Donovan


  15. manoa:

    The University needs an attorney to advise regarding the hearing. Why? The Wonder situation is not finished– there could still be lawsuits or criminal prosecution. For example, Jim Donavan or Jim Sherrif or Bob Peyton or persons unknown say the one with the $200,000 could file suits. In such a case the questions and answers in the hearings could be evidence that makes or breaks a case. In addition, Jim Donovan and others involved may be entitled to have certain information protected from public disclosure without a subpoena and court protection of confidential information. The only way the University can decide what information needs to be reviewed or witheld, is with legal counsel and the protection of the attorney-client privilege. The attorneys retained for the investigation cannot serve as attorneys for this purpose– they have an ethical conflict of interest, and they may need to testify on their investigation which means they cannot offer the university the protection of the attorney-client privilege.


  16. nanakuli:

    Very sad for rich sheriff and his friend bob payton.


  17. Jin:

    First question at today’s hearing should be “why hire an attorney for today’s hearing?, where did the money come from?, are we the tax payers paying for the attorney or is it coming out of your own pocket?


  18. bowsfan:

    I’m glad they are asking about the buy outs of contracts. I never knew the the board of regents had so much power. The BOR actually run things at UH, every person is just a figure head. If a person is to be fired or whatever, BOR tell the person to do the dirty work for them, if the AD can’t get it done, they will get fired or not extended.


  19. DJ:

    Too much cronyism at UH. President resigned at UC system for just that reason. The decision to bring back Donovan under a new contract and new job created just for him highlights this better than anything, I also don’t understand why they can’t fire people for cause. That would circumvent the contract buy out issue. They need to bring in a truly independent investigator to sort all of this out, then make some heads roll.


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