Final RPI out. Hawaii No. 10
December 19th, 2011
By Cindy Luis
By Cindy Luis
http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/weeklyrpi/2011WVBrpi1.html
1. Illinois. 2. Texas. 3. Iowa State. 4. USC. 5. UCLA. 6. Nebraska. 7. Florida State. 8. Purdue. 9. UNI. 10. Hawaii.
Volleyshots
Hawaii’s opponents
4. USC
5. UCLA
14. Pepperdine
20. Cincinnati
27. Colorado State
40 Ohio St.
41. Long Beach State
44. Wichita State
51. Arizona
59. Notre Dame
60. New Mexico State
63 Rice
89. San Francisco
92. Pacific
99. Northern Colorado
105. Idaho
134. CSU Fullerton
135. fresno state
170. San Jose State
173. Utah State
263. Nevada
267 Louisiana Tech
Not to be redundant but it seems like every year the RPI loves Iowa State and UNI might be time to see if we can get them here for one of our preseason tournaments
UNI has fared will in the RPI ratings.
Iowa St, not so much. At least not as consistently as UNI (and a lot of the MVC conference teams) has been over the years.
Any thoughts on what the Top 10 will look like in the final AVCA poll due out tomorrow ?
i think it will look something like this, although it’s not how I would vote necessarily.
1. UCLA. 2. Illinois. 3. USC. 4. Florida State. 5. Texas. 6. Iowa State. 7. Kentucky. 8. Florida. 9. Hawaii. 10. Pepperdine.
I just don’t understand why UNI gets so much respect? Do they play in a tough conference? (Sorry, I’m just a little bitter :blush:)
don’t understand it either or why they think the MVC is such a power conference.
After many years of them not even making out of their own subcregionals the committee really needs to seed them 4-5 spots below their rpi. Make them earn the respect.
The RPI can be gamed. UNI and a lot of the MVC teams schedule smartly to ensure a strong RPI rating.
Shoji has done this too. Hawaii’s RPI has been pretty strong over the years, despite being in the WAC. In the last couple years especially, Shoji has put together a strong RPI schedule. He’s had to, in order to compensate for the WAC.
Cindy, final 2011 Team and Individual Stats are also out. Can you do a UH stats wrap for us? Mahalo.
will get to the UH final stats. later. leaving for town in a few minutes. be back around 130
All in one place .
Schedule/Results | Individual and Team Season Statistics | Offensive Totals | Defensive Totals | Game Highs | Conf Game Highs | Ranking Trends | Team Final Trends | Conf Team List | Scoreboard | National Rankings
http://stats.ncaa.org/team/stats?org_id=277&sport_year_ctl_id=10700
You would think. But if you actually click on all the categories, many of them show up as error fields.
Big West looks better than the WAC hopefully they will improve even more next year.
41 Long Beach St.
53 UC Santa Barbara
92 Pacific
94 UC Davis
108 Cal Poly
122 Cal St. Northridge
134 Cal St. Fullerton
161 UC Irvine
188 UC Riverside
LC, thanks. had a feeling you’d get to the BWC so i wouldn’t have to.
The bad news: more than half the Big West has RPIs in the 100s.
The good news: no Big West team has an RPI in the 200s (The WAC usually has a couple, if not more.)
Hawaii moving to the Big West will help everyone’s RPI based on who the play in the preseason.
So how many times would UCLA have to beat Illinois to end up No. 1 in the RPI?
GRADING THE FINAL RPI
Scale
A = 85 – 100
B = 64 – 84
C = 37 – 63
D = 16 – 36
F = 0 – 15
(1) According to the RPI, these teams should have made the Sweet 16 (Round 3): Illinois, Texas, Iowa St, USC, UCLA, Nebraska, Florida St, Purdue, UNI, Hawai’i, Kentucky, Minn, Penn St, Tenn, Pepperdine, and Florida.
Grade: B (14 out 17 or 82%)
(2) And these teams should have made the Elite Eight (Round 4): Illinois, Texas, Iowa St, USC, UCLA, Nebraska, Florida St, and Purdue.
Grade: B (6 out of 8 or 75%)
(3) And these teams should have made the Final Four: Illinois, Texas, Iowa St, and USC.
Grade: C (2 out of 4 or 50%)
Compare these ‘puter results with the pathetic NCAA Selection Committe’s seedings and you can see which group needs reprogramming.
(But it’s also true that the Final RPI is backwards looking, it has already figured in the results of the NCAA Championship and has tweaked itself to look more pyschic than it really is.)
Unfortunately, the RPI that is made available to the Selection Committee is not released to the public.
If I had this Pre-NCAA Championship RPI, I could compare it the Post-NCAA Championship field’s Final RPI to see where the Committee’s seedings and at-large invites (e.g. choosing a low-level BCS bubble team over a runner-up non-BCS bubble team) deviated from (i.e. screwed) the computer’s numbers.
But WHO CARES about transparency?
This just proves that the NCAA will always have an in for Hawaii, regardless of conference. They love the B1G, Pac12, and the SEC. All power (read MONEY) conferences.
The NCAA is looking more like a business that may be making questionable decisions based on revenue, rather than bettering the spread of the sport.
but they aren’t making money from volleyball. it’s considered a non revenue sport, which allows them to only seed 16.
i don’t think they showed any love for the Pac-12 at all. and they have always had this bias toward the SEC, which has had 1 program make the final four ever in Florida.
It is right to say that the NCAA has only two revenue producing sports. Football and mens basketball. Womens basketball has a number of profitable programs but overall I don’t think its a revenue producing sport.
Would be terrific if volleyball broke away from the NCAA and formed their own organization like the AIAW before they joined the NCAA. There may be enough dissatisfied teams/conferences who are tired of the incompetence of the NCAA selection committee. The NCAA can keep their SEC, ACC and MVC conferences that they love so much.
The AIAW was created to provide women with athletics. After Title IX, the AIAW and women’s athletic departments sued the NCAA to have equal access to scholarships and facilities. the NCAA eventually realized they would never win the lawsuits so in 1981 it was a bit of a hostile takeover, with most athletic departments putting their women’s programs in the NCAA. the AIAW lasted one more year, the biggest name holdout was Texas because their women’s AD was also the president of the AIAW.
Texas won the final AIAW national championship, came over to the NCAA the following year and the AIAW disbanded.
I think the answer is for the NCAA selection committee to have people on it who know and care about the sport instead of people looking to pad their resume. Rich Kern and Pablo have discussed it with them, gave some solid suggestions but you know how that ended up.
This may be off the topic of the above subject but just watched Adolpho playing women’s basketball. Think she will be a great asset to the team. However, does anyone know why Dave Shoji would think Adolpho was ready to play as a freshman but not Vorster? Just curious.
Because Kalei is quicker, Stronger and hits harder, it’s quite obvious.
they had planned to redshirt both but Adolpho proved in double days that she could be a force with her athleticism.
Shoji likes athletic people. Hence Adolpho and Blake starting the majority of the WAC season. Vorster could surprise people. Might be a Hewitt-type of player.
Yea I think Shoji really likes Vorster and I think she will be starting by her Sophomore or junior year but Kalei is a freak Athletically, u can see that when she plays basketball, she is quick for her size.
http://www.avca.org/divisions/division-one-women/poll-12-20-11/
Final AVCA Division I Coaches Top 25 Poll
December 20, 2011
Rank School (First-Place Votes) Total Points 2011 Record Last Week
1 UCLA (60) 1500 30-6 4
2 Illinois 1440 30-5 7
3 Southern California 1380 29-5 1
4 Texas 1277 25-5 5
5 Hawai’i 1207 31-2 3
6 Pepperdine 1103 25-7 18
7 Florida State 1063 28-7 21
8 Iowa State 1003 25-6 14
9 Penn State 972 25-8 9
10 Purdue 936 29-5 8
11 Florida 911 27-6 17
12 Nebraska 848 25-5 2
13 Kentucky 741 28-6 16
14 Stanford 696 22-8 6
15 Minnesota 659 20-12 19
16 California 562 26-7 10
17 Washington 520 24-8 11
18 Northern Iowa 459 33-2 12
19 Tennessee 427 28-4 15
T-20 Michigan 363 22-13 22
T-20 San Diego 363 28-5 20
22 Kansas State 262 22-11 NR
23 Ohio State 234 20-15 NR
24 Oregon 194 21-10 13
25 Colorado State 146 24-6 NR
Others Receiving Votes and appearing on two or more ballots: Miami (FL) 61; Long Beach State 44; North Carolina 33; Dayton 28; Western Kentucky 21; Michigan State 16; Texas A&M 13; Arizona 10; Tulsa 7; Cincinnati 4
Six teams mentioned on only one ballot for a total of 19 combined points.
Dropped Out: Miami (FL) 25; Long Beach State 23; Western Kentucky 24
Thank god we were ahead of Pepperdine.
I was right on with my prediction that we would finish 5th.
I felt that our performance against USC while a loss would impress the voters.
Plus Hawaii’s two losses were to two FINAL FOUR teams.
It could’ve should’ve would’ve if it weren’t for the stupidity of the NCAA Selection Committee, a USC versus Hawaii, or a UCLA versus Hawaii for the NCAA Championship.
IMHO, a Bruins v Wahine final would have gone five games, with the fifth a tossup. The SSC would have been rocking and rolling with probably a record volleyball fans turnout.
believe you mean UH-USC in the regional final. would have only tied a record since they’ve have 10,300 before. but it would have been loud, as it was for the regional semi. I had a headache for two days from the noise.
Seasider was making a point about the NCAA championship match. which wouldn’t have been played in the SSC.
think UCLA-UH would have been interesting to see how much each team had improved from their first meeting and what adjustments both coaches, particularly Shoji, would have made.