Washington 3, Hawaii 2

December 1st, 2012
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Finally got to Laie. was listening on radio most of the ride.

Hawaii wins set 1 25-20, Hartong with 11 kills

UW wins Set 2 25-20 after they floppled there block to get a better handle on Hartong. Couple of net violations didn’t help UH.

Hawaii wins Set 3 25-19.

It’s tied in Set 4 7-7

Hartong with 21 kills, Croson 15, Vorster 6, Kastl 5, Adolpho 5

3 aces, 8 SE, 52 digs, 3 blocks

UW 2 aces, 6 SE, 39 digs, 10 blocks

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  • steve ced December 1, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    You knew the Wahines would come up short this season after you saw them play UCLA early in the schedule.

    Shoji is always at least one player away from a championship team. Like the years with Kahomoku
    and Willoughby, two studs aren’t enough anymore.
    They were enough in the 80′s when he last won the title but
    you need more than that now. Let’s hope he gets what he needs next year because he will have a seasoned
    team.

  • TW December 1, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    Putting Kastl on the right was a serious weakness for the Wahine in terms of blocking. Shoji kept stressing her offense but she was hitting a low .199 for the season…. probably lower after her .062 tonight against the Huskies. She is supposed to be a left but certainly didn’t challenge Hartong or Croson on the left and Goodman has a better hitting percentage on the right and has as many blocks despite having much less playing time.

    • LJ December 1, 2012 at 10:49 pm

      Agreed… wonder why he didn’t put Olevao in more.

      • warriorfan December 1, 2012 at 11:04 pm

        Well i have to say Kastl did not have a good year stats wise. But she seems like a very nice girl and very fun and vocal, hope she improves and has a better senior year.

    • SamIAm December 2, 2012 at 6:18 am

      Kastl never got a chance to show her capacity , like i said you have to get SET so you can produce . Give her 50 or 60 sets and she will give u 20 or 30 kills as well . I don’t think Goodman has any where near the explosive offense Kastl does , Nor is she really any much better at blocking .

    • bigwater December 2, 2012 at 8:39 am

      Take a look at the year end stats. All I heard all year on this blog is alot of bagging on Kastl anyone really know who she is?

      • warriorfan December 2, 2012 at 8:52 am

        She needs to step her game up next season, less errors more kills. I believe she can.

  • Warrior15 December 1, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    Hawaii fought hard even in the loss. Congrats to the Wahine on a great season.

    I hope this makes them hungry for next year!

    A damn shame this match was played in only the second round.

  • Warrior15 December 1, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    Did BYUH win tonight?

    (sorry, there’s so many posts … i might have missed it…)

    • warriorfan December 1, 2012 at 11:09 pm

      yup they are going to play for the national title, good for them.

      • Warrior15 December 1, 2012 at 11:21 pm

        cool … thanks!

        congrats and good luck to coach navalta and his team!

  • Warrior Dave December 1, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    IMHO, i felt Shoji made a major mistake by not playing Kastl all year. Tai will be good but Shoni decided to burn her redshirt year for what I feel was nothing. She played regularly when Jane was out but it as only spot duty after.

    Again IMHO, Shoji failed to have this years team gel. Kept changing the lineup all year, up to last night!!! It was frustrating to me.

    • warriorfan December 1, 2012 at 11:53 pm

      They gelled fine, you need to build depth too….. u know.

  • dedicatedfan December 2, 2012 at 12:04 am

    If all the players return, next year, and I expect them to, cause it is rare that you see a senior transferring. Next year’s team might just be the most talent laden, and deep, team, Dave Shoji has ever had. With 3 setters, 4 middles, and 6 outside hitters. I cannot think of a Wahine team that will be this deep before. Can anyone think of a Wahine team that was this deep before?

    • PurpleMaple December 2, 2012 at 6:43 am

      It’s too often that it’s “Wait till next year.”

  • Gogetem December 2, 2012 at 12:10 am

    No one has mentioned this but I think UH could have won tonight had Brittany Hewitt still been around. Clearly her leaving proved to be a very big loss in the end.

    • warriorfan December 2, 2012 at 12:19 am

      Well if healthy obviously. She and Vorster would be the best middle tamdem in the country. I mentioned how big of a loss she was, she was a clutch blocker in the NCAA tourney.

    • Kazu December 2, 2012 at 6:02 am

      Agree. Sure miss Britt in that front line. Would have liked to see more of Hagins though.Their day to the final four will come. Wahine Basketball looks intresting,and of course softball,can’t wait for that.I wish Coolen had three pitchers instead of only two.
      Eight months and counting for next season.

    • PurpleMaple December 2, 2012 at 6:49 am

      Wahine did not have a middle attack. Period. Brittany Hewitt would not have made a difference. Wahine played predictable and were limited to a left-side attack with pipe set attack mixed in. UW either blocked or dug Wahine in the 4th and 5th sets.

      • warriorfan December 2, 2012 at 9:09 am

        They did have a middle attack and both hit over 400 against washington but weren’t set much late in the fourth/fifth.

        Brit’s blocking would have definitely made a difference no question about it.

  • vdbwong December 2, 2012 at 12:16 am

    Shoji activated Olivao to try to fill the right side. Kastl was not doing well at that spot and she cannot replace Hartong or Croson on the left. Kastl is still not effective on the right side. My take on this game is that Hawaii became too predictable. Everyone knew Hartong was going to get all the sets when she is on the left front. All the defense had to do was defend 10 ft of net. Setting the middle or right side more would have made a difference.

    • warriorfan December 2, 2012 at 12:21 am

      Yup, late in the fourth and fifth Uiato was just too predictable. UW blockers weren’t fooled at all. IMO should have tried to run hartong on the slide,

    • SamIAm December 2, 2012 at 3:52 pm

      As said before with all the changes and rotating out Kastl really never seemed to get a chance. Followed her in the Pac 12 and watched her play some great matches. Just don’t think she was given a TRUE chance.

    • rnr December 3, 2012 at 9:47 am

      Yeah it was tough when the sets became predictable, perhaps moving Hartong on the right in the 5th set??? who knows.. it was just a tough loss, but at least the ladies battled it out and couldn’t be more proud of them.

  • Mike December 2, 2012 at 12:34 am

    The big screw up this year was the right side. Kastl, Goodman , and Olevao have a combined average of a little over .200 and weak at the block. We’re lucky to get this far with those stats. Too much pressure on Hartong and Croson. the middles were also below average.

    • dedicatedfan December 2, 2012 at 12:40 am

      It came down to the play of the RS, for both teams, and UW won that battle. Need to remember UW rarely sets their Middles, even less then the Wahine do. But their RS contributes enough that they do not need to go their middles, all that much. Even tonite, Hawaii went to their middles more then UW did.

    • warriorfan December 2, 2012 at 1:10 am

      346 and 388 is NOT below average, get real. They should have been set more.

      • dedicatedfan December 2, 2012 at 1:21 am

        Go look at the stats, how many times the UW middles were set compared to UH’s middles. The UH middles were set alot more. The UW RS players simply outplayed the UH RS players, from hitting to blocking.

      • Mike December 2, 2012 at 5:24 am

        I’m talking about the year overall, Warriorfan. So you’re saying the right side held their own and weren’t a weak spot? hmmm

        • warriorfan December 2, 2012 at 8:33 am

          346 and 388 are the hitting percentages for Adolpho and Vorster for the year. they were not below average, and both just a soph and freshmen.

        • Mike December 3, 2012 at 8:51 am

          warriorfan, who’s talking about the middles, I’m talking about the right.

          • warriorfan December 3, 2012 at 3:47 pm

            Dude you are the one that said ” the middles were also below average”” which is BS!

    • SamIAm December 2, 2012 at 6:27 am

      Just like i said Maeda U e aught to set somebody else would have been better off setting middles and rs more through out the year , wouldn’t have been so predictable and I believe this would have helped greatly through out the season and tournament . Go Wahine !!!!!!

  • dedicatedfan December 2, 2012 at 2:02 am

    Here is a quote from Jim M. and Dave S., after the match.

    “It was a huge win for our program. Hawaii is big-time. It’s been big-time many years. It’s too bad they didn’t get to host.”

    Shoji jumped on that subject last, blasting the NCAA for not seeding his team and allowing it to host.

    “It’s a disservice to our athletes to disrespect them like that,” he said finally, and angrily.

  • Grammy December 2, 2012 at 4:03 am

    Being pessimistic but NCAA seeding will not change. Why should/would it? If they don’t really consider the regular season except for RPI (Really Poor Idea) and probably don’t look at the tournament results except for Championship game, to their eyes it’s all good! I’m tired already about all the what ifs and what will bes. I will mourn a while for the what could have been and then move on, This was a hard working, scrappy bunch that grew to finally reach its potential, but not a bad team with a lot of weaknesses. Yes, somethings and some players might have done it different, but you can’t tell me that those who were sent in planned on making those ‘critical’ errors at critical times. @^!4 happens. And for the visiting team it happens more. The Wahine did their utmost to ‘represent’ all of us, fans and haters, too. So deal with it. As for me, I’ll stay a Rainbow Wahine Fan ’cause to me they are winners. And Coach Dave is the Man to lead this program. Others might have success, too, but he’s doing it at a non-BCS school from what the NCAA considers a mid-major or lower conference, And he’s always done it that way and will continue to do it that way, So Go Wahine! You women lift my fighting spirit every game and fill my old heart with pride – win or lose. And I don’t care the court, I always like our chances with you representing Hawaii.

  • Orbitalripz December 2, 2012 at 7:26 am

    One can only wonder what if — WHAT IF, WHAT IF — it was the other way around: Washington @ Hawai’i. Shoji commented that the Alaska Airlines Arena was the loudest (home crowd) he’d ever heard an arena — outside of the Stan. Clearly the 7th Player played mind games with some of the Wahine when it counted.

    Washington last met Nebraska in Seattle in 2010, also in the Round of 16, with the Dawgs and its 7th Player winning. Now we’ll see how UDub does in the Nebraska Coliseum.

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    On another line, one can only wonder if not reaching the regionals will diminish the All-American candidacy of Hawai’is players. Prior to this loss, Hartong was a First Team, Croson a Third Team, and Vorster a Honorable All-American candidate, in my opinion. Think the All-Americans are announced after the regionals but before the Final Four.

    • Cindy Luis December 3, 2012 at 9:52 am

      They won’t be at the coliseum. They are at the Qwest center in Omaha

      • Orbitalripz December 6, 2012 at 3:26 pm

        You are partly correct. It used to be called Quest Center. Since 2011, it’s called CenturyLink Center.

  • wisemary December 2, 2012 at 8:07 am

    I think Dave Shoji should sue the NCAA committee that seeded the teams.

    The committee is obviously favoring teams east of Colorado in terms of seeding. I think its their way of attempting to spread the volleyball talent nation wide since it has been a dominant west coast volleyball program.

    Penn State is always guaranteed a host seed. Penn State never has to play a AVCA top 10 team in their second round, it’s as if the committee wants to let Penn State advance in hopes that high school kids will gravitate towards the Big 10-12 programs.

    Losing to a rank team on an away game should be scored the same as losing to an UNranked team while being away.
    A loss is a loss. Kansas and some other seeded teams that arent AVCA ranked got higher seeds (RPI scores) because they LOST to Texas or Nebraska, or a Penn State….loses to top 10 teams.

    I think the NCAA seedings and RPI should be recalibrated and that AVCA coaches vote and decide who gets to position the post season bracket.

    • Orbitalripz December 2, 2012 at 2:34 pm

      Some like to aruge the NCAA favors teams east of Colorado or east of the Mississippi when it comes to seeding. I say it favors BCS-conference teams. The only BCS team on the west coast is the PAC-12. (If there were more BCS conferences in the west, there would be more west coast teams seeded.) 15 of the 16 seeded teams come from BCS conferences.

      But why fix what the NCAA committee clearly thinks is not broken. Never mind it’s a money-losing venture, supported by and large by BCS conferences’ football teams (with the exception of Hawai’i). NCAA Women’s Volleyball has expanded from a handful of mainly west-coast teams to 330 Divison 1 programs. Like the NCAA committee would say, “We do not do Santa in our house.” In other words, we don’t do charity. We take care of the BCS conferences, and they take care of us.

  • Gogetem December 2, 2012 at 8:13 am

    What is this about the two coaches practically coming to blows after the 2nd round in 2010 – not like Dave to display poor sportsmanship? By the way, if McLaughlin and Wallace both say Hawaii should have hosted, why can’t the selection committe see this. It seems like EVERYONE else can see UH should have hosted except the stupid committee. My heart really breaks for Emily Hartong. Next year she will be stronger. And if it is true that everyone says that Taylor will be on the right next year that will help, I truly hope so. I can only hope the middles get a little better. I agree with everyone. Everyone on the Washington team knew the last ball was going to go to Hartong – wasn’t that difficult to defend. I am glad Dave is finally showing the anger towards the NCAA. He usually is very too politically correct. There really isn’t any need to be too politically correct. The whole bunch of volleyball fans is just as angry, if not more. If WA is the #5 team, UH is definitely NOT the #8 team.

    • volleyball fan December 2, 2012 at 12:28 pm

      It’s not McLaughlin and Shoji who almost came to blows, it was McLaughlin and Cook of Nebraska who almost came to blows. Coach Shoji would never fight with another coach, he’s too much of a gentleman.

  • Pooz December 2, 2012 at 8:20 am

    Here are the committee members who decided Hawaii was not deserving of a seed in the tournament. Most of these people are low-on-the-totem-pole representatives from small universities’ athletics departments. I don’t think they know much of anything about volleyball.

    Diane Turnham, Middle Tennessee State
    Beatrice Crane Banford, Marshall
    Jean Berger, UNI
    Jana Doggett, Utah State
    Jennifer Gilbert, Miami (OH)
    Samantha Hastings, San Francisco
    Mary Hill, South Carolina State
    Jim Marchiony, Kansas
    Barbara Walker, Wake Forest

    dturnham@mtsu.edu, craneb@marshall.edu, jean.berger@uni.edu, jana.doggett@usu.edu, gilberj2@muohio.edu, shartwell@usfca.edu, mhill@scsu.edu, jmarch@ku.edu, walkerbg@wfu.edu

    • Pooz December 2, 2012 at 8:21 am

      All of their emails below as well in case you want to let them know what you think about their decision.

      • dedicatedfan December 2, 2012 at 10:52 am

        Ummm, what emails below?

    • rnr December 3, 2012 at 11:02 am

      what exactly are their qualifications? if any??? hmmmm – it certainly makes one ponder.

  • steve December 2, 2012 at 8:50 am

    Now we can look to next year. Olevao probably should not have been activated this year and Shoji should have given Kastl more sets. Kastl has good power and can hit from the back row….I don’t know why she didn’t
    dominate more….maybe she needs more swings to develop more confidence or needs to work on other aspects of her game.

    • warriorfan December 2, 2012 at 8:57 am

      Olevao playing this year will greatly help her for next season IMO.

  • Gogetem December 2, 2012 at 8:51 am

    Turning to men’s volleyball, anyone know what happened to Sam Biscarro? He’s not on the roster. Wasn’t he just a junior?

    • warriorfan December 2, 2012 at 8:53 am

      He quit.

  • tako December 2, 2012 at 9:06 am

    Oh my gosh…it’s sad that the “team” lost. However, they were exciting to watch. The last picture that comes to mind, is Emily Hartong’s comments after the game, red eyed and exhausted……need more be said about how they felt… go bows!

  • dedicatedfan December 2, 2012 at 10:56 am

    If all of the teams, west of the Mississippi, had any balls, they would boycott the NCAA Tournament, not even show up, until the Selection Committee, makes it fair for everyone.

  • Burt December 2, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    Agree with most of the comments about Kastl–just a gut feeling. Ditto re the middles, especially agree with Sam. Comments were often made during the broadcast that HI was becoming too predictable. Also had been concerned that the favorites would be set too often–should be less predictable if middles were set more often almost @ seemingly random. Still could have won. 1 or 2 less errors in set 4…..subtract crucial hitting error then….

  • Kuhio December 2, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    Here’s something to wonder about. BYUH just hosted 7 teams in their regional. How the heck the NCAA Div 2 can send 7 teams to HAWAII and the NCAA Div 1 can’t send 3?

    • WaWa December 2, 2012 at 2:53 pm

      You bring up a great point! Do you think that is why they did not let us host? Since they were already sending the DII teams here? They may have figured theyre already spending enough money flying teams to Hawaii.

      Regardless, either or both division representatives should be able to have hosted, huh.

      • mauna December 2, 2012 at 4:03 pm

        Just guessing at the RPI rating, unless UH has one lets say in the top 10, they will never, ever have UH host the sub regional here. Last year was an exception because the Regionals was here. Money is a poor excuse, they made enough money in the sub here to cover the expenses to fly 3 teams here.

        • Cindy Luis December 2, 2012 at 6:09 pm

          Re: Dii
          Addressed this issue the other day.
          DII is much more transparent. They have regional polls that they go by. BYUH had been No. 1 in its region most of the year. They were No. 5 in the coaches poll. The BYUH coach was a little surprised they got to host but it would have been hard for them to deny the Seasiders.
          As for the cost, DII is done over two weeks. They have three days of regionals then three days of the national championship (elite 8, final 4, title match.
          both DI and DII have a 64-team field.
          DI goes for 3 weeks, 16 sites for pods of 4. then 8 sightes for pods of 4. A lot more expense there.
          DII also announced its field over a week before they had to play. Plenty of time for teams to make travel arrangements, not as costly as the last minute that the DI teams have.
          IMHO, the NCAA did not look at DI and DII schools hosting. They have separate committees that make that decision.
          And by the makeup of the selection committee, you don’t see the West well represented.

          • WaWa December 2, 2012 at 11:42 pm

            Thank you for that explanation. Sorry you had to repeat it. I don’t always read through the entire blog’s replies…especially when I see certain monikers’ posts, it’s a turn off :)

    • warriorfan December 2, 2012 at 4:25 pm

      Well hard to not give hosting duties to CLEARLY the top d2 team in the west region.

      If UH was clearly top 10 in RPI they would have gotten to host I am sure. Because UH was on the bubble the committee preferred to save money than be kind to UH.

  • Kuhio December 2, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    Great season Wahine. If we can improve on the right side we could be in for a wild ride to the Final Four next year. I think everyone knew where the set was going when it was match point in the fourth set. In hindsight would have been awesome if she did the slide to the right. Blockers were waiting on her on the left. You know after the USC loss last yr we were all wondering how much of a step backward we would go without Kanani and Brittany (and Chanteale). I don’t think we did go down any. Good job girls and good job coaches. We the fans appreciate the hard work you alll put in this year. Go Wahine.

    • warriorfan December 2, 2012 at 4:26 pm

      Dave Shoji never rebuilds, he reloads.

  • hollysmoke December 2, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Next year, looking into my crystal ball, I envision the Wahine with a vastly improved middle play offensively and blocking wise, and a greatly improved RS terminator and blocker. With the 1-2 punch Croson and Hartong LS the Wahine will be the most feared team of 2013.

    • warriorfan December 2, 2012 at 7:52 pm

      MY crystal ball Hartong repeat big west POY (candidate for Avca POY)

      Jade Vorster – First team all american
      Jane Croson – Second team all american

      Big west FOY between Taylor and Higgins.

      • hollysmoke December 2, 2012 at 11:06 pm

        We must have the same brand crystal ball, LMAO!

      • Orbitalripz December 3, 2012 at 8:05 am

        But this year is not yet over! The 2012 ALL-AMERICA teams will soon be announced.

        No one answered my question posted earlier.

        Most everyone believes Hartong should be on the All-American First Team. And Croson and Vorster should also be selected. But will the UH’s failure to reach the regionals affect the candidacy of these players?

        • Cindy Luis December 3, 2012 at 9:24 am

          No, the fact that UH didn’t advance shouldn’t affect selection. The A-A teams are based on the all-region teams. Those will be announced this week. And where they are on the region team will pretty much determine where they are on AA teams. which are announced next week. That Hartong was POY for the Big West should mean she makes first team both all-region and AA

          • Orbitalripz December 3, 2012 at 11:40 am

            Mahalo!

            I agree “the fact that the UH didn’t advance shouldn’t affect selection.”

            For certain, there is only one selection that is affected if that player’s team fails to advance beyond the regionals. And it’s the selection of the National POY.

  • Sodakine December 2, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    Right side needs to get stronger for next year. My suggestion would be training Tuaniga on the right side. She can offer a better block, fire power, & hits a heavy ball. With the amount of middles, she’ll never see the starting line up. The only way is for her to play on the right. She’s had great potential

    • Cindy Luis December 3, 2012 at 9:38 am

      Don’t see them moving Tuaniga to the right at this late stage in her career.
      KT’s not that mobile and her lateral movement has been suspect with her shin splints. (chronic)

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