my bad, Wahine up to No. 4

August 30th, 2010

Seriously, i checked this morning. Read next poll Sept. 6. Obviously missed Aug. 30.

AVCA Division I Coaches Top 25 Poll
2010 Poll #1: August 30, 2010
(First-Place Votes) Points Record Last week’s rank
1 Penn State (51) 1480 3-0 1
2 Texas (5) 1398 3-0 3
3 Stanford (4) 1359 3-0 4
4 Hawaii 1246 3-0 5
5 Illinois 1184 3-0 6
6 Florida 1177 2-0 13
7 Nebraska 1142 1-1 2
8 Minnesota 1123 3-0 6
9 Washington 1060 2-0 8
10 Southern California 966 3-0 10
11 California 882 2-0 11
12 Iowa State 818 1-1 9
13 Florida State 706 3-0 15
14 UCLA 625 2-1 16
15 Colorado State 612 2-0 17
16 Kentucky 467 0-2 14
17 Tennessee 425 3-0 19
18 Oregon 378 3-0 20
19 Michigan 368 2-1 12
20 Dayton 359 3-0 21
21 LSU 337 3-0 23
22 Northern Iowa 284 3-0 24
23 Long Beach State 241 4-0 NR
24 Arizona 205 2-1 18
25 San Diego 161 1-2 22
Others Receiving Votes and appearing on two or more ballots: Ohio State 90; New Mexico 55; St.
Mary’s (Calif.) 44; Cal Poly 31; Michigan State 29; Baylor 24; San Diego State 24; Texas A&M 19; Missouri 18;
Pepperdine 17; Duke 15; Toledo 13; Cincinnati 12; UC Santa Barbara 12; New Mexico State 10; Wisconsin 10;
Utah 9; Rice 8; Missouri State 7; Oklahoma 6; SMU 5; Florida International 3; Santa Clara 3
11 schools were listed on only one ballot for a total of 23 points.
Dropped Out: St. Mary’s (Calif.) (25)
Next poll: September 6, 2010

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  • BIK August 30, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    Michigan State is all ready here arrived 15 minutes ago.

  • seasider August 30, 2010 at 3:30 pm’s Class of 2011 Senior Aces countdown started today with 100-91, tomorrow it’ll be 90-81, and so on.

    I think Croson will come in as a top 5 Senior Ace, and Long, Vorster, and Stauber will be listed from 50 to 90.

    Hawaii’s Class of 2011:
    Jane Croson, 6-0, OH, Ginger Long, 5-11, OH, Jade Vorster, 6-4, MB/OH, Monica Stauber, 5-8, S/DS, and Kalei Adolpho, 6-1, MB/OH

    100. Kalei Adolpho, 6-1 MB, Molokai (Hoolehua HI), Imi Ike – Hawaii

    From a large family on the small Hawaiian island, Adolpho took up running at an early age. These days, she is running the show for her high school team, the Molokai Farmers, where Adolpho was both her league’s Player of the Year in volleyball and state tournament MVP in basketball last season. Amazingly quick and a great leaper, Adolpho is a feared front court player, both as a terminator and a shut down blocker. She will sign a basketball scholarship in November but will play both volleyball and basketball at Hawaii, where she has committed.

  • seasider August 30, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    The countdown to 2011 Senior Ace top 100 started today beginning with 100 to 91.

    Hawaii Recruit Kalei Adolpho is #100. I definitely think the rest, Long, Stauber, Vorster will also be in the top 100, with Croson listed in the top 5.

    • Cindy Luis August 30, 2010 at 3:41 pm

      Thanks for the info.

    • warriorfan September 1, 2010 at 10:42 am

      IMO Adolpho should be top 50 for her athletism alone. She is a BIG jumper and quick.

  • jmy August 30, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    Does anyone know what happened to Long Beach State? I know that right now they’re playing pretty well…but I can remember back in the late ’80′s & ’90′s they were nearly invincible (beating Baylor in the NCAA first round 15-0, 15-0, 15-0). In recent years, they can’t even get past Rounds 1 & 2 and barely make the Top 25.

    • wow lau lau August 30, 2010 at 7:10 pm

      Hawai’i left the big west thusly Long Beach State became irrelevant. LBS system is also suspect with the rally scoring system. My guess is that Brian is trying hard to get back to the top but without much competition they are not prepared come post season time.

      • Cindy Luis August 30, 2010 at 7:23 pm

        One observation, made by Shoji and others, that the BCS money trickles down to sports such as volleyball. Hawaii, Long Beach State and Pacific are the only schools from BCS conferences to win the NCAA title. Long Beach State (2001) the last non-BCS school to play for the title, losing to Stanford, and is the last non-BCS school to win (1998) over Penn State. With the RPIs favoring the BCS conferences, they get more teams in and those conferences have a higher percentage chance of winning. If you look at the last 10 years. only 3 schools have made it to the final four from non-BCS conference. Hawaii 2009, 03, 02; Long Beach State 01 and Santa Clara 05
        And the Cal State system is broke. San Diego State, for one, was told they could no longer recruit out of state.

        • jmy August 30, 2010 at 7:33 pm

          Interesting…never even considered that…Would it be fair to say that being “out of the spotlight” for all these years, it would be tough for Beach to get the top recruits?

        • leftout August 30, 2010 at 9:14 pm

          I think there maybe other factors that figure into the decline of the LBS program. Brian G. is the club president and owner of the Cal Juniors Volleyball Club. What a gold mine, can you imagine what Shoji could do in recruiting in that socal area. The recruiting budget would be mininal in comparison to what it is now, there could be much more non official visits by perspective recruits. They could simply drive to the campus rather than having to buy plane tickets, hotel and car rental. It would also be easier for girls to attend volleyball camps. Eight of twelve 2010 Wahine on scholarship is from

  • jmy August 30, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    Good point…but UH left the Big West for a very weak vb conference and have been doing much better in the polls & in the postseason…Ironically, many people have made the exact same comment about UH (weak conference, unprepared for NCAA)…

    • Warrior15 August 30, 2010 at 11:20 pm

      BCS money is a big deal. It started in about 1998, and it helped already good volleyball conferences get even better (Pac-10). With no football in the Big West, they just can’t bring in that kind of revenue.

      Hawaii has kept pace with the BCS conferences in volleyball in large part b/c it’s still the only profitable volleyball program in the country. The Wahine don’t have to rely on the football program or on BCS money to stay afloat. Without the ability to generate its own revenue, the Wahine is just another program at UH fighting for leftovers from what the football team brings in.

      • Cindy Luis August 31, 2010 at 2:52 pm

        BCS money helps the entire athletic department and it helps upgrade the facilities. UH’s are pretty poor compared to BCS schools. The reason that Hawaii has kept pace in volleyball is the tradition of the program, the fans and the coach. You do realize that football may bring in the most money but it also spends the most. barely breaking even.

        • Warrior15 August 31, 2010 at 5:23 pm

          Cindy – I agree with you. Saw an article on it just the other day. Only a little more than half of FBS football programs turn a profit, and just barely. And if the football team is just barely making a profit, then it’s near certainty that the entire athletic department is in the red.

          But I was trying to get at why Hawaii has kept pace in volleyball, and Long Beach St (arguably) has not, in the BCS era. No doubt both have built strong traditions (though LBSU may not have as large a fan base as HI).

          The biggest difference is that the Wahine program is financially viable (in large part drawing on the things you described). LBSU’s strong tradition in volleyball may not be enough to sustain it in the long run, without BCS money or any kind of revenue that it could generate itself.

  • John August 30, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    No. 4?! WOW, really wasn`t expecting that. IMO, I`m still not sure we`re a number 4 team. Yes, they palyed well and did a great job this weekend. I just feel that we have so many young players that they don`t have enough game time and experience to be a top 4 team. I believe the ranking is a little high. Top 10 yes but not this high. No disrespect to our Wahine. I have faith and follow them loyally. Just being more on the conservative side that`s all. Anyone else share my opinion?

    • Cindy Luis August 30, 2010 at 8:29 pm

      Pretty simple. Hawaii No. 5 preseason poll. Nebraska loses, Nos. 3-4-5 move up a spot Texas to 2, Stanford 3 and Hawaii 4.

      • ingoodstanding August 31, 2010 at 4:18 am

        You were ‘looking’ at Div.II (Sept. 6). :-)
        NU still top 5…it’s sort of quite the opp of ‘simple’, IMHO.
        *Were they to play UH, even here, they’d win (I believe).

        • Cindy Luis August 31, 2010 at 2:54 pm

          that could very well be. IGS. Those little links don’t always go to the right division.

  • Bud August 30, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Look at all the other times UH gets screwed in the ranking/seeding. I don’t feel guilty of our #4 ranking.

    • Warrior15 August 31, 2010 at 7:27 am

      Hawaii has never had a problem getting the respect of AVCA voters.

      It’s the seeding from the NCAA, and its reliance almost entirely on the RPI that has been the issue.

      • Cindy Luis August 31, 2010 at 2:55 pm

        Never said they did (have a problem with the AVCA voters). was responding to an earlier comment and why I hoped that the committee would not go strictly on RPI.

        • Warrior15 August 31, 2010 at 5:28 pm

          Sorry Cindy — I don’t think I was responding to you … I thought I was responding to Bud …

          (And that’s one thing about the current format, I’ve noticed that sometimes our “Replies” end up in a place you don’t mean it to end up.)

          • Cindy Luis September 1, 2010 at 11:28 am

            yes, i agree. the format sucks. have asked to change over to what they do for Tsai’s. still waiting for an answer.

  • John August 30, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    Yeah, Okay I understand your feeling and I feel the same way. But I`d rather be under the radar then to be over hyped. Then this way we don`t get all the I told you so`s..

  • leftout August 30, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    (continued) Cal. Not trying to insinuate anything but over the years his players at LBS suffered an unusually high amount of injuries. They also had a very strick diet, do you remember when their uniforms were more like what gymnists wear. I still drool when I think of Christine Romero. And I’m puzzeled why his longtime assistant Debbie Green Vargas is now a volunteer coach at the University of Santa Barbra and brought her daughter to set for the Gauchos. Well maybe its nothing, but
    Debbie is what attracted setter Misty May to his program. Even Kanoe Kamanao thought seriously about LBS until Brian recruited another setter. She adamantly wanted to set, thought that Brian might make her a libero/ds.

    • Cindy Luis August 31, 2010 at 2:50 pm

      Everyone wanted Kanoe as a libero, including Haley at SC.
      Vargas’ daughter been at UCSB for a couple of years. it says something when you don’t want your child to play for the program you’ve coached in.

  • dino August 31, 2010 at 12:07 am

    If we beat USC, we should be #1

    • Cindy Luis August 31, 2010 at 2:51 pm

      No, they should not be No. 1. you beat a team ranked lower than you does not move you up. you only move when the teams ahead of you lose.

  • jeff August 31, 2010 at 12:41 am

    Well NM St. got 10 votes i guess that’s good . Again i expect the wahine to be ranked # 1 some time this year but the WAC will hurt us Can’t wait for Falyn Fonoimoana vs Hewitt two heavyweights

    • Joe Blow from Idaho August 31, 2010 at 1:44 pm

      NMSU got 10 votes but down 4 from last week .

  • TerenceTwkWong August 31, 2010 at 8:52 am

    nice test for the volleyball team this past weekend, winning in 3, 4 and 5 games going 3-0!! Emily is playing very well and seems to me plays better in the middle than the left. Hopefully Michelle settles in at the left…. this weekend games are going to huge!! All three teams were in the NCAA’s last year and USC has the #1 recruiting class. Looking forward to these games…

  • RoyBGivs[TerenceTwkWong] August 31, 2010 at 8:54 am

    really like to recruiting class coming in as well!! if they all sign, looking good for a few more years!!!

    • Cindy Luis August 31, 2010 at 2:55 pm

      Not question of if they will sign but there may be academic issues for some.

      • Steve August 31, 2010 at 3:12 pm

        Cindy, I hope you are not talking about one, Jane Croson?

  • TaayNoga August 31, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    I Love Hawaii But Lets Go Penn State!

  • volleyballinsider August 31, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    Penn State is a big question mark this year. They haven’t played anyone good yet. But I think that will change when they play Illinois.

    As for Hawaii, I would say by midseason they should be very good. Right now, they’re still trying to get use to each other. The freshmen starters are slowly coming into their own.

    • Warrior15 August 31, 2010 at 5:32 pm

      oh, they’ll be tested before that. in 2 weeks they’ll play Florida, and then either Texas or Stanford.

  • Steve August 31, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    Cindy, you need to let the people, who do the printing, that the Wahine Volleyball Preview, should also be printed on glossy paper, like Football was, instead of regular paper, they deserve it.

  • Steve August 31, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    What a put down to Wahine Volleyball, using regular paper, they deserve better.

    • Cindy Luis September 1, 2010 at 11:27 am

      Don’t even get me started on use of the newsprint. I’ve been begging to be on glossy. thought we would get it this year. not happy

  • John August 31, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    I guess we have a troll here rooting for Penn State. This is a Wahine board please. I know anyone can post but this is for Wahine VB fans.

    • Cindy Luis September 1, 2010 at 11:26 am

      Actually not just for Wahine fans. It’s about VB in general but I would think the readership is mostly UH fans.

  • dino August 31, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    I didn’t mean the Wahine will be rated #1 the week after we beat USC but they should go undefeated thereafter and do you think teams above us will lose at least once? GO BOWS. Cindy let’s be optimistic and don’t pop my bubble

    • Cindy Luis September 1, 2010 at 11:25 am

      not trying to be pessimistic. just saying how the polls work you stay where you are until you get beat.

  • John August 31, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    Hey Dino, that`s IF and I say a BIG IF we beat USC. They are loaded with talent and had the #1 recruiting class if I`m not mistaken. Let`s not jump the gun even before the game has begun. I like your optimism but let`s wait and see.

  • bowsfan August 31, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    Great to read that twilight ohana is back and after the Wahine VB game on October 15, 2010.

    • Cindy Luis September 1, 2010 at 11:24 am

      could make a nice combo, especially for the students.

  • dino August 31, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    Yeah,sooo optimistic before the games,huh. I even think we can beat USC in football,LOL but realistically the wahine have a great shot at USC on home court.GO BOWS

  • ino badayu August 31, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    food for thought: texas a&m football is $36 million in the red.

  • leftout August 31, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    Good news for those of us who refuse to pay ransom to oceanic cable for PPV. The Haw’n Airlines Wahine Classic vb games on friday, sat, sun will be rebroadcast the following day on Kfve with Jim & Chris. Got this from the UH website. So there is a volleyball god somewhere up there.

    • xtreme September 1, 2010 at 7:57 am

      anybody know what time they’ll be showing the replay? in the past it was shown at 10am the following day.

      • MidniteGambler September 1, 2010 at 10:48 am

        TV Guide online shows this weekend’s replays at 12 noon… YMMV, so check your local listings…

    • Cindy Luis September 1, 2010 at 11:29 am

      you can listen live on 1420am. not sure why they chose this weekend for PPV.

  • jeff August 31, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    I just hope NM st get’s better we really need a good game after the preseason really our 2nd team could win the WAC Some one loves hawaii But go Penn St. huh!!! but this the USA so let them post Besides they are $1 til somebody Beats them

    • Cindy Luis September 1, 2010 at 11:23 am

      UNM is not NMSU. Agree tho. that UH’s second team could win the WAC.

    • Suzy November 10, 2011 at 5:35 pm

      Superior thinking dmenosrttaed above. Thanks!

    • alpldnlrwe November 11, 2011 at 12:21 am

      1EdygZ edicoiiheotd

  • Steve September 1, 2010 at 10:54 am

    Will someone wake up CL, she needs to update her blog.

    • Cindy Luis September 1, 2010 at 11:17 am

      I’m awake. had the day off. will e more later

  • Steve September 1, 2010 at 11:23 am

    CL, Jade Vorster is ranked #79.

  • Steve September 1, 2010 at 11:25 am

    Here is what they say about her:

    Blessed with a massive wingspan, Vorster has the potential to be a great blocker with big hands, a long reach and improving lateral quickness. She jumps well and contacts the ball at a high point. This should allow her to hit over blockers. Vorster has a whip of an arm and hits a variety of sets well both in front of and behind the setter. Serious and mature, Hawaii will be getting an impact middle determined to make an early impact for the Rainbow Wahine.

  • Steve September 1, 2010 at 11:28 am

    Shoji will need more then one volleyball come the 2011 season. Maybe Hawaii can field 2 teams in the WAC for 2011. Just a matter of which one of those 2 teams would win the WAC.

    • Cindy Luis September 1, 2010 at 11:44 am

      Agree Steve that UH’s biggest problem will be keeping all the talent happy

  • Kimo September 1, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    I think Hawaii fans should be more concerned about the OTHER Aggie team in the WAC. Utah State is on a roll. Their top player receiving National Player of the Week honors. Should be an interesting match.

    • leftout September 1, 2010 at 2:10 pm

      I don’t take the CVU awards seriously. In the past they made some strange selections, their credibility is questionable. But lesser programs and confrences like to toot their horn to bring attention to themselves.

  • Spike September 2, 2010 at 8:36 am

    Just read the article in today’s paper.

    Really, Dani? The fans are a “hostile crowd” and it was so hard to overcome the “adversity”?

    I’m disgusted. She just lost this fan.

  • Ainokeabrah September 3, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    So what’s going on with cascioppo? Has she been practicing? I see great potential in her and I wanna see her play. She 6’3….so there’s obviously some kinda hope in myself that she can become a starter towards the end of the year.

    • Cindy Luis September 3, 2010 at 3:58 pm

      Cascioppo has several medial issues that are being addressed. As for yesterday, she sat out not feeling well.

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