Wahine intinerary

November 26th, 2012

UH leaves Tuesday night on United at 949 to SFO then to SEA

Don’t know when the team is told to be at the bus. Usually 2 hours before.

If someone wants to organize a sendoff, I’d suggest calling the athletic department

either AAD Carl Clapp 956-6523

or AAD John McNamara 956-0912


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  • Have A Good Trip November 26, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    I assume it is because of school but they travel at some ridicules times;

    This is their schedule
    Lv Honolulu – 9:49pm HST11/27
    Arr, San Fran – 4:46am PT 11/28
    2 hour 35 min layover at SF
    Lv San Fran – 7:21am PT 11/28
    Arr.Seattle – 9:34am PT 11/28
    Round Trip Cost for NCAA : $1,325 per ticket

    My schedule:
    Hawaiian Airlines- Round Trip Non Stop both flights
    Lv Honolulu 2:15 pm HST 11/27
    Arr Seattle 9:50 PM PT 11/27
    Round Trip Cost $714

    I’ll leave the same day as them and get 8-10 hours of sleep in Seattle and will be having breakfast before they even land.

    • uhfan November 26, 2012 at 5:10 pm

      UH is so good at saving money

    • dedicatedfan November 26, 2012 at 5:54 pm

      Hey, so much for Hawaiian Air being a major contributer to UH. The Volleyball team could not even get seats on Hawaiian Air’s flight to Seattle.

      Hey, Cindy, I was close. Said they will have to go to LA, before heading to Seattle. Well it turned out it was S.F., instead. Knew the Wahine would not go straight to Seattle, it was just to logical for the Athletic Department to do so. If the Athletic Department had acted quickly enough they could have gotten a Direct Flight to Seattle. Local people acted alot quicker then the slow, no clue, Athletic Department.

      • Cindy Luis November 26, 2012 at 5:58 pm

        Don’t know if they couldn’t get seats out on Hawaiian or if United was cheaper.
        NCAA requires the cheapest flight. I would have thought Hawaiian would have been the better choice but perhaps, as you suggest, there weren’t enough seats.
        Not like HAL is holding seats for UH on such short notice, travel partner or not.
        And this has nothing to do with the athletic department. it has to do with available seats on flights. the NCAA picks up the tab for the travel.
        And, I’m sorry, but the athletic department acted right after the announcement. Don’t understand your issue. They booked what they could get. And they had to book for 22 people out on Tuesday. the ‘local people’ can a fly out later in the week solo.

        • Have A Good Trip November 26, 2012 at 6:06 pm

          I know,$1,325 per ticket on United
          $714 on Hawaiian

          • dedicatedfan November 26, 2012 at 6:19 pm

            Clueless, UH Athletic Department staff. UH just loves spending tax payer money. The whole Athletic Department needs to be fired. With people who know what they are actually doing taking their place.

          • Cindy Luis November 26, 2012 at 6:21 pm

            But is that for an open-ended trip? they’ll stay on the mainland if they advance.
            And why do we suddenly care about when they fly? they booked what they could get for when they wanted to go.

        • dedicatedfan November 26, 2012 at 6:10 pm

          Cindy, I helped my friend book a total of 10 seats on that Tuesday afternoon, Hawaiian Air flight. There was still amble seats available, enough to handle the 20 or so players and coaches. I would think Hawaiian Air would have discounted the price per seat for the Wahine, since they are a major backer of UH Sports. But then again, who knows if they would

          • Cindy Luis November 26, 2012 at 6:19 pm

            Don’t know what to tell you. They booked as soon as they knew where they were going. And they booked Tuesday night. They may not have wanted to pay for the extra night hotel room, which they would have if they flew out Tuesday afternoon.
            also an issue with classes. The night flights, as they’ve been taking all season, allows for them to go to school.
            They get in at 10 a.m. Wednesday.

    • dedicatedfan November 26, 2012 at 6:03 pm

      By their itinerary, that means a Tuesday morning practice. Getting to Seattle at 9:30AM Wednesday, only means Wednesday is nearly shot. By the time they get to their hotel and check in, Noon. The girls need to sleep, since they have been basically awake all day Tuesday. Whoever thought up this itinerary did not do the Wahine any favors. They just lost 1 day of practice, giving them only 3 days of practice time, while the other teams will have 4 days of practic.

      • Cindy Luis November 26, 2012 at 6:08 pm

        Don’t understand why you have issues with the travel. This is exactly what they’ve done all season. Red-eye out, get in two days early to acclimate. They don’t play until Friday. They get one practice at the facility on Thursday and probably a walkthrough on Wednesday.
        plenty of time to prepare and get sleep.
        And they don’t lose a practice. They practice Tuesday before they leave.
        And they get to go to class Tuesday as well.
        Not like they haven’t traveled this season. And they’ve been having morning practices most game weeks. For a week with Thursday-Saturday games. They have practice Monday and Tuesday mornings, Wednesday afternoon. Friday afternoon.

        • dedicatedfan November 26, 2012 at 6:13 pm

          What I am taking issue with is, the Direct Flight thing. Do you know how tiring it is to take connecting flights, versus a Direct Flight. Remember all their flights this year, until now were direct flights, no connections.

          • Cindy Luis November 26, 2012 at 6:15 pm

            This year was a luxury compared to most of the past seasons where they’ve always had connections and then drove.
            i really wouldn’t worry too much. Not like they are going to florida, like we did in 98.

  • Have A Good Trip November 26, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    I did hear on Live Net today that the NCAA only allow schools $600 for air fare and anything over that the school has to pay for but I’m not sure it that applies only to mainland schools.

    • Cindy Luis November 26, 2012 at 6:11 pm

      Don’t know about the $600 restriction. They had a ‘must drive’ if you were within 300 miles at one point.

  • Beauston November 26, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    Looking at conference stats for WCC, Santa Clara is below average for most of the stats with the exception of service aces. They are second in conference. Another interesting stat is blocking where Santa Clara is last in conference at 1.86 avg/set.
    And looking at some videos out there, yhey play really scrappy, so expect to have a lot of loose balls dump in front or 3 meter line and off plays. 2 things Ive mentioned Wahine needed to clean up for post season. Not everything is on paper but as long as Wahine clean up tjose little things and sustain with great energy, I expect them to go 3-0 on 1 st round. They will however pick on Hartong and Croson and even Longo in serve receive so they better get ready.

    • Have A Good Trip November 26, 2012 at 5:49 pm

      I don’t think the team or coaches will be taking them lightly but I have noticed that many of our fans seem to be looking right past them.

  • dedicatedfan November 26, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    Cindy, shhhh, keep quiet about them going to Florida, in 98. If the Selection Committee gets wind of that, the Wahine may end up there next year. So SHHHHHH. :-)

    • Warrior15 November 26, 2012 at 9:53 pm

      going to florida for a subregional — or someplace east — may not be so bad … if you look at the teams there (in florida) this weekend.

      florida has tulsa, college of charleston and miami (oh)…

  • Cindy Luis November 26, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    Dedicated fan. the NCAA picks up the tab, not the tax payers.

  • Manu November 26, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    Have a good and safe trip Wahines and Supporters. Please keep us folks unable to go posted. Huge Mahalos to you, Cindy!

    I liked your “SHHHHHH…” post, dedicatedfan….heh heh

    • Cindy Luis November 27, 2012 at 7:48 am

      Sadly, I am not going to be at the matches. Ann will be traveling. I will be up in Laie for the DII regional.

  • Kailua November 26, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    dedicatedfan,did you ever consider that they are flying United because it gives them the option of changing tickets o get them to Omaha if they win? Flying Hawaiian doesn’t provide them with any travel flexibility.

  • volleyball fan November 26, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    Why couldn’t they rather leave on Wednesday morning with a direct flight and get a full night’s sleep? I feel so sorry for the girls.

    • Cindy Luis November 27, 2012 at 7:43 am

      I still don’t understand the obsession with when they fly.
      This is how they’ve traveled all season. They have a morning practice, they go to class (what a concept) and then take the overnight.
      They are getting in 2 days before they play. Plenty of time to acclimate. Exactly why are you feeling sorry for them?
      The players you should have felt sorry for were the ones who played in the WAC where the travel was brutal, especially getting to LaTech.

  • WaWa November 26, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    Who cares when they leave, omg. You guy are ridiculous, stop being so analytical. I’m sure if they lose you will be the firsts to say, “I told you they shoulda planned their flights better.”

    Oh and goodness, grumbling about the $$$$…it was NCAA’s dumb idea to send us there, let us rack up the bill. We AREN’T paying for it.

    Anyways, on another note…should we get past Santa Clara & WA, I like our chances on advancing past (possibly) Nebraska.

    • gabs November 27, 2012 at 12:25 am

      yeah i agree. imho nebraska’s seed is too high. Oregon and BYU are going to be a problem though.

    • ha'a November 27, 2012 at 6:34 am

      ditto, ’nuff already!

  • Grammy November 27, 2012 at 6:01 am

    I know its prudent to not look past any opponent but as far as I’m concerned the Wahine need to focus most on their side of the net. Serve receive, serve receive, serve receive. Block alignment (especially against any leftys). Floor coverage behind block (no reaching back by blockers) and serving strategically. Finally spreading the offense out where possible. Coaches will take care of fine points and in game adjustments. Players need to be ready to inserted at any time and be ready to contribute right away. I know all the different lineups this year was to find the starting lineup, but also see who does well with others on court and which lineups do well against certain style in other team. We’ve seen all kinds of teams and we’ve seen all kinds of strategies against the Wahine this year and I’m confident we prevailed so many times already that only the ‘real deal’ final four type team will be able to ‘beat us’ but if the talent is equal, I like our chances, Go Wahine!

  • HOSSANA November 27, 2012 at 7:30 am

    re: Dedicated Fan….what an idiot!! Get your facts straight before blaming the athletic dept. etc….geezus!!!!

  • TW November 27, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    This is how they have traveled and it is to the detriment of the players. The football team would not be expected to leave at 9:49 pm and have a 2.5 hour layover at 4:30 am, arrive in Seattle after 10 hours and finally get checked in after 12 hours of travel. Sleep studies confirm that this kind of interruption of normal sleep patterns takes days to recover from. That may be okay if you’re playing weaker opponents but it is a definite disadvantage playing Santa Clara and Washington. When individuals can purchase less expensive, direct flights at better times (which still would have enabled them to attend classes) it makes you wonder. Who makes the wahine travel arrangements….they should be investigated! This is unnecessary and unconscionable. Do you believe that other top programs would force their athletes to travel like this? It just makes no sense.

    • Cindy Luis November 27, 2012 at 3:46 pm

      Why the complaints NOW?

      No, other ‘top’ teams don’t travel like this because no other team has to fly 2500 miles across an ocean.

      We don’t know if there was a cheaper alternative because they needed an open-ended ticket in case they advanced. Besides, UH isn’t paying for the travel.

      Please tell me of a direct flight Tuesday that would have allowed them to go to class through Tuesday afternoon (since a number of them have 4 hour labs that don’t get out until 4 p.m.
      They have two days to recoup before they play. That’s why Shoji wanted them in Seattle Wednesday, not Thursday.
      They did the same thing when they went to USC twice in the tournament, didn’t hurt them then.

      They investigated, got the tickets they wanted. End of story.
      And yes, the football team has taken overnight flights and had to have layovers.

  • TW November 27, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    Lots of NCAA teams have long flights: Michigan State, Western Kentucky and Dayton (2300 miles), Fairfield and Brooklyn (2800 miles), Colorado State (1940 miles). I hope none of them are spending 12 hours traveling.

    One way tickets on Hawaiian were in the $340.00 range leaving at 2:04 pm and arriving in Seattle at 11:10 pm. The one way fare would have given them the flexibility to return to Oahu or continue on to the Regional Tournament. Even if they purchased a round trip ticket ($740.) and threw the return away it would have been less than the tickets they purchased. I am unfamiliar with all the players schedules but assume that it wouldn’t have been difficult to leave by 2:00 pm. I am familiar with the football travel the last few years and can’t remember them leaving later than 2:00 pm and certainly not on a red eye.

    The Wahine will have been up for approximately 24 hours when they get to Seattle. If it were a priority there were other options that would have been more desirable alternatives. Many fans easily obtained tickets that were much better travel schedules and that’s what makes this so inexplicable.

    • Cindy Luis November 27, 2012 at 8:37 pm

      It’s 10 hours, not 12 you’re forgetting the time difference.
      They likely got some sleep on the plane.
      But seriously. What is the big deal?
      It’s how they’ve done it, it’s how they wanted it.
      The have plenty of time to recoup.

      • miami bus schedule December 9, 2012 at 5:31 am

        “If you can’t be part of my solution, please; don’t be part of my problem!”

  • TherealManu November 27, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    Hey Cindy, don’t waste your energy…they’re not reading what you post or at least not with comprehension.

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